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By Lawrence Buser (Contact), Memphis Commercial Appeal
Saturday, October 11, 2008

Supports woman's claim to be Presley's half-sister

The head of an Arizona DNA lab who supports a woman's claim that she's the daughter of Vernon Presley said Friday there's something even more interesting about the case.

Elvis is alive.

"I think the DNA taken from the person named Jessie can only be DNA of Elvis Presley," said Donald Yates of DNA Consultants in Scottsdale. "It's from a live person because the DNA is recent. There are a lot of Elvis impersonators, but I don't think you can imitate DNA. It's hard to get your mind around this story."

Eliza Presley, a 46-year-old Washington state woman who recently changed her name from Alice Elizabeth Tiffin, said in Probate Court this week that she based her Presley kinship claim in part on a DNA sample sent to her from a Jessie Presley.

When asked by attorney William Bradley Jr. if Jessie believes he is Elvis Presley, Eliza replied, "No, actually (he is) Elvis Presley."

She did not elaborate and could not be reached Friday.

Judge Karen Webster reopened Vernon Presley's estate Wednesday at the request of Eliza's attorney, but made no other finding and did not set another court date.

Bradley, however, repeated his assertion that the case has no merit.

"After hearing her testimony in court, I'm not at all surprised about her most recent revelations," said Bradley, who represents Elvis Presley Enterprises and Lisa Marie Presley Lockwood. "Many individuals who claim to be related to Elvis Presley have vivid imaginations."

Eliza Presley's mother, former Memphian Florence Sharp Clark of Oregon, said she was part of the Elvis social circle for a period, but that she had no child by him or his father.

Elvis, who is commonly believed to have died in 1977, would be 73 today.

Yates, who has a doctoral degree in history but none in science, said he concluded Eliza is the daughter of Elvis' father, Vernon Presley, and that Jessie is actually Elvis by comparing his DNA with a Presley cousin, a cousin from Elvis' mother's side, Eliza's and several control samples.

He said neither he nor Eliza has met the man they believe to be Elvis, but that Eliza has talked to him and that he lives at an undisclosed location in the United States.

"I'm an historian and I've never known of a story of a famous person dying and then of rumors being sustained for 25 years that he's still alive," said Yates, who said he also is a former public relations man for Alka Seltzer. "Not throughout human history has a situation like that existed. Jesus Christ died, but he came back pretty quickly."



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Charmaine,

Wasnt it yourself that was upset about all the 'Elvis is alive' or 'Elvis faked his death' topics/posts that members were putting up and discussing so im confused why you have put this up scratch
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ELVIS IS DEATH (for a long, long time!!)
And he should rest in peace..
May his soul live on in our hearts!!
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Yeh I mean how many times does this have to come up, especially in the papers etc?
I hope this gets put to bed pretty quickly as I bet it has done no good to Lisa and the family, especially as she was due to give birth when the first stories came out and now that she is a mother of twins! She really doesnt need this! Its shocking it really is Twisted Evil
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If the lab owner is a former public relations man for Alka Seltzer, all i can say is everything he is saying is a lot of 'plink plink fizz'. la la la , he needs to stick to settling stomachs not keep churning them.
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Lol! Exactly Val hun! You go girlfriend! Not worthy Thumbs cheers
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Sean wrote:
Charmaine,

Wasnt it yourself that was upset about all the 'Elvis is alive' or 'Elvis faked his death' topics/posts that members were putting up and discussing so im confused why you have put this up scratch


Sean I am not posting this for the "Elvis is Alive" bullsh*t" ...
I am following the case of Vernon's Estate!!! This is the only reason that
I am posting this Sean and everybody else!!

I am following this to see if this gal gets recognition from EPE or Vernon's
estate based on the so-called DNA from other family members (being Glady's
side), that she will win the case and be recognized as a Presley and get
anything out of the estate and that is all!!!

Respectfully,

Charmaine
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eselvisfan wrote:
ELVIS IS DEATH (for a long, long time!!)
And he should rest in peace..
May his soul live on in our hearts!!


Essie,

Read what I said to Sean.... I have totally ignored part of the article where they
are trying to claim Elvis is alive!! I am continuing to follow the article where they
are getting closer to that of proving she is an heir of Vernon's!!

Respectfully,
Charmaine
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I wasnt attacking YOU Charmaine, but it is just so horrible that there is always people out there claiming that Elvis is still alive, in this case the lab guy clames it...
It is ofcourse possible that Elvis has a half sister somewhere, anti conseption wasnt used that much back then, i guess..
But i am curiouse what the followup will be of this lab-man.
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eselvisfan wrote:
I wasnt attacking YOU Charmaine, but it is just so horrible that there is always people out there claiming that Elvis is still alive, in this case the lab guy clames it...
It is ofcourse possible that Elvis has a half sister somewhere, anti conseption wasnt used that much back then, i guess..
But i am curiouse what the followup will be of this lab-man.

Hi Essie my very, very dearest friend! I know YOU were not attacking me... how could you Wink we are best buds!
I too am curious what the outcome of this case if particularly with the Judge (the courts), this is why I am following
this story and the fans that I have shared this with have asked me to keep them up to date..
and yes I too am curious as to what this lab tech gets from other family members (as he said it is on
Glady's side, but what about on Elvis father's side hmmmm

Huuugs Charmaine
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Wow you girls are up very late or very early Cheesey Smile
This is bound to be a bit of a touchy subject and we will all have different opinions on it but as long as they are all respected (which Im sure they will be) then it should be quiet an interesting subject Goggles Im interested on following it too study
I felt quiet sorry for the woman at first, not knowing who her father is etc. But loads of things dont fit! The first and main one being her birth mother said she didnt have a sexual relationship with either Vernon or Elvis for that matter. Others being that I heard she has already made claim to be a member of the Presley family on Gladys side too scratch
Then the claim that this Jesse or who ever is Elvis is just ridiculous! I hope this guy gets found out as this pie in the sky story should be squished asap.
I for one am getting totally confused with it all! Does anyone know if Graceland/ the Presleys have released a statement or are they keeping as far away from it as possible?
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charmainejensenvoisine wrote:
Sean wrote:
Charmaine,

Wasnt it yourself that was upset about all the 'Elvis is alive' or 'Elvis faked his death' topics/posts that members were putting up and discussing so im confused why you have put this up scratch


Sean I am not posting this for the "Elvis is Alive" bullsh*t" ...
I am following the case of Vernon's Estate!!! This is the only reason that
I am posting this Sean and everybody else!!

I am following this to see if this gal gets recognition from EPE or Vernon's
estate based on the so-called DNA from other family members (being Glady's
side), that she will win the case and be recognized as a Presley and get
anything out of the estate and that is all!!!

Respectfully,

Charmaine

Well the article reads like its an 'Elvis is alive' topic and the heading you put up indicates this as well.

The story is a complete load of rubbish, even the woman's own mother thinks so.

What makes you think Vernon has an estate? I didnt think one exists.
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>>Well the article reads like its an 'Elvis is alive' topic and the heading you put up indicates this as well.

The story is a complete load of rubbish, even the woman's own mother thinks so.

What makes you think Vernon has an estate? I didnt think one exists.[/quote]<<

I am going to get one of the articles that says that Vernon's estate has been reopened and send it to EPE and
see if they will comment on it....

hmmm...

This Sean should prove interesting if they do or do not choose to comment on it.

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Yeah but there is nothing in Vernon's Estate, so basically, it doesnt exist.
Even if it was proved that she is right, what can she claim? Nothing.
It's ridiculous.
I wouldnt even bother sending an email to EPE, Charmaine.
Instead, just play this video clip on this link and all will be explained if your that interested in it.

http://www.wmctv.com/global/story.asp?s=9148581

This woman is a complete nutter, I mean for a start, a clue is in the name that she is calling herself 'Eliza Presley'. Rolling Eyes
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I'll say this much...if id put this up it would have gone...just like that. But it does make interesting readin'...so ta for posting. Sophs.
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I think it has nothing to do with you Sophie.
More of how heated the discusion becomes, or how rude it will turn out.
But not for you as a person, i am 100% sure of that! Wink
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Thats very nice of you...thank you.x
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Sophie, the reason why this topic is up is it is all over the news, in the Elvis world anyway.
Yes we dont want to be getting into 'Elvis is alive' rubbish but we can hardly avoid something that is everywhere and is relevant in Elvis News.
It wouldnt make any difference if it was you that put this up. No one has preferential treatment on here and thats a fact.
Stop being so hard on yourselves and us and if you wanna get involved with the topic please do but if not pass it by.
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>>What makes you think Vernon has an estate? I didnt think one exists.[/quote]


Sean,
When I think back to the time of Vernon's death, I do not even recall a "will" reading do you?

Tons of hugs for you my friend.... xxxx
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Lorna wrote:
Wow you girls are up very late or very early Cheesey Smile
This is bound to be a bit of a touchy subject and we will all have different opinions on it but as long as they are all respected (which Im sure they will be) then it should be quiet an interesting subject Goggles Im interested on following it too study
I felt quiet sorry for the woman at first, not knowing who her father is etc. But loads of things dont fit! The first and main one being her birth mother said she didnt have a sexual relationship with either Vernon or Elvis for that matter. Others being that I heard she has already made claim to be a member of the Presley family on Gladys side too scratch
Then the claim that this Jesse or who ever is Elvis is just ridiculous! I hope this guy gets found out as this pie in the sky story should be squished asap.
I for one am getting totally confused with it all! Does anyone know if Graceland/ the Presleys have released a statement or are they keeping as far away from it as possible?


Hi Lorna,

I guess you could say when you saw me online at that hour, I had not even gone to bed yet, due to the fact that I am in excruciating pain!!! I injured my right shoulder shortly before my trip to Montreal Quebec for the ETA Showcase, and Yes I know I should had gone to the doctors to find out what I did. I will be doing this for sure on Tuesday. A friend of mine in Montreal that has a family member in the medical practice, said it sounds like I may had torn a nerve or muscle tissue. Well over the course of the day after returning from Montreal up to now, the pain has not been subsiding, and in fact has been intensifying and also starting to bruise... I did something really stupid to get this injury, I could kick myself now!! grrrr

The most interesting thing about this ladies mother... if she did have a relationship with either Vernon and/or Elvis - the mother would had been much younger than Vernon and Elvis... at the time too, so it is not a wonder that she wants to deny any kind of relationship.

I read in another article that they have gotten DNA proof from a 1st cousin of Elvis', being that of Donna Presley... go figure. I have sent that other article to Donna Presley and not posted it here...

Actually yes the lawyers from Graceland have posted a statement to the "Press" and I shared it here...

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Sean wrote:
Yeah but there is nothing in Vernon's Estate, so basically, it doesnt exist.
Even if it was proved that she is right, what can she claim? Nothing.
It's ridiculous.
I wouldnt even bother sending an email to EPE, Charmaine.
Instead, just play this video clip on this link and all will be explained if your that interested in it.

http://www.wmctv.com/global/story.asp?s=9148581

This woman is a complete nutter, I mean for a start, a clue is in the name that she is calling herself 'Eliza Presley'. Rolling Eyes


Sean,
in all honesty, I am not really interested per se!

I get a huge laugh everytime someone like this comes out of th woodwork and claims to be a presley.

What got to me this time of all other times Sean.... is the fact it went to court and the Judge reopened Vernon's Estate, which I found kind of
odd, considering he had NO estate... My interest Sean is solely out of curiousity of this whole thing being a farse... wondering whether this
Judge is really for "REAL"! LMAO!

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Id love to comment on this...but sadly...I have little time today or for the next few weeks...Its just a case of stopping by, if u see what I mean. Wiggle
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