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PostSubject: How authentic are your backing tracks ?   How authentic are your backing tracks ? Icon_minitimeTue Oct 06, 2009 8:02 pm

Recently i attended a show and my first impression was he's got a good voice but as the show went on having a keen ear for how things sound , i could hear Elvis in the background , i then turned to lorna who had also picked up on the fact elvis was also on the backing track.

I have very mixed feelings about this some good some not so ..... So how would you feel if you attended a show like this ? Please no Pm's asking who the artist was my lips are sealed.
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PostSubject: Re: How authentic are your backing tracks ?   How authentic are your backing tracks ? Icon_minitimeTue Oct 06, 2009 8:50 pm

Personaly id walk out just my opinion
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PostSubject: Re: How authentic are your backing tracks ?   How authentic are your backing tracks ? Icon_minitimeTue Oct 06, 2009 9:29 pm

pauldb38 wrote:
Recently i attended a show and my first impression was he's got a good voice but as the show went on having a keen ear for how things sound , i could hear Elvis in the background , i then turned to lorna who had also picked up on the fact elvis was also on the backing track.

I have very mixed feelings about this some good some not so ..... So how would you feel if you attended a show like this ? Please no Pm's asking who the artist was my lips are sealed.
not sure if i understand the question..????do you mean he was miming to Elvis How authentic are your backing tracks ? Affraid How authentic are your backing tracks ? Affraid How authentic are your backing tracks ? Affraid How authentic are your backing tracks ? Affraid
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PostSubject: Re: How authentic are your backing tracks ?   How authentic are your backing tracks ? Icon_minitimeTue Oct 06, 2009 9:43 pm

If I could hear Elvis on the backing track, I would have questioned the ETA or at least let him know my thoughts. I've heard some backing tracks that needed a clean up, the sound wasn't that great and when Paul C got to work on them, we too noticed Elvis's voice was barely audible, but there none the less. I think the guy in question maybe had purchased or came across backing tracks that are Elvis tracks and someone has used software to "lift" Elvis' voice from the track....but not done a good enough job.
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PostSubject: Re: How authentic are your backing tracks ?   How authentic are your backing tracks ? Icon_minitimeTue Oct 06, 2009 10:34 pm

dose this mean ive been getting it wrong again i didnt know you just put a record on and mime damm all that time learning the words damm How authentic are your backing tracks ? Lol How authentic are your backing tracks ? Lol How authentic are your backing tracks ? Lol
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PostSubject: Re: How authentic are your backing tracks ?   How authentic are your backing tracks ? Icon_minitimeTue Oct 06, 2009 11:08 pm

I suppose it depends on how loud the Elvis voice is.

In the book "Be Elvis" by Rick Marino, he constantly refers to "Singing over Elvis` voice"

I guess way back when they did not have backing tracks as readily availabile as they are today.

I would not sing at a show with Elvis` voice being audiable (if thats the word)
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PostSubject: Re: How authentic are your backing tracks ?   How authentic are your backing tracks ? Icon_minitimeWed Oct 07, 2009 12:45 pm

I suppose there is no problem with using ordinal recordings as your backing tracks, as long as the following two criteria are satisfied:

1) You have permission via the requisite license to do so.
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2) You have removed the voice of Elvis from the track.

Anyone leaving the voice in place and miming to the track is misrepresenting themselves unleass they make it clear that they are miming.

It is quite possible to remove vocals from recordings, however, doing so well is not easy at all.
By its nature, removing vocals is a process of removing certain harmonics from the tracks, therefore, by doing so, you will also remove elements of the musical content. This results in the music tonal quality being reduced and in some instances, being virtually destroyed.

It is possible to remove vocals faily cleanly, but you have to be very careful and it can take some time to restore what is lost in the process.
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PostSubject: Re: How authentic are your backing tracks ?   How authentic are your backing tracks ? Icon_minitimeWed Oct 07, 2009 2:36 pm

i too know of somebody who uses this 'trick' and it disturbs me!!

i cant say its not right but i for one couldnt listen to anybody who uses such tracks
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PostSubject: Re: How authentic are your backing tracks ?   How authentic are your backing tracks ? Icon_minitimeWed Oct 07, 2009 3:37 pm

Having listened to a lot of ETAs tracks whilst compering at Porthcawl I was reminded how important it is to record tracks at the right level. Some were distorting through being recorded too high.

I also had a sneaking suspicion that one ETA was miming to a recording of himself at the beginning and end of Hurt! I might have to try that one myself!!! lol
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PostSubject: Re: How authentic are your backing tracks ?   How authentic are your backing tracks ? Icon_minitimeWed Oct 07, 2009 4:12 pm

I think live has to be live. If u can`t do a song live don`t do it until u can.

I remember in my early days doing "Just Pretend" it was not bad but then again not up to a pro standard IMO. I won`t do it now until I have time to work it and get it spot on.

I was chatting to Rob Kingsley at one of his shows and he was doing `hurt` that nite for the first time. He had been working on it for about 2 years.

It was worth the wait at it was a fab rendition of the song!!!

I think the same can be said for doing Elvis moves - if they don`t come natural don`t do them. I have watched a lot of ETA`s on YouTube and very good ETA`s, doing moves during songs and it spoilt the performance for me because they looked too `rehearsed` - they seemed to be thinking too much.

Look at Mr Nova. When Mike does his movies stuff it could have been Elvis copied him!!! But that is probably because moving like that comes natural to Mike and he has worked hard to achieve the level he is at.

Off topic a bit I know, but just shooting the breeze How authentic are your backing tracks ? Icon_wink
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PostSubject: Re: How authentic are your backing tracks ?   How authentic are your backing tracks ? Icon_minitimeWed Oct 07, 2009 4:54 pm

thanks mr memphis!

nothing natural...just a screw loose!
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PostSubject: Re: How authentic are your backing tracks ?   How authentic are your backing tracks ? Icon_minitimeWed Oct 07, 2009 5:01 pm

mikenova wrote:
thanks mr memphis!

nothing natural...just a screw loose!
i can confirm that How authentic are your backing tracks ? 98246 How authentic are your backing tracks ? 98246 How authentic are your backing tracks ? 98246 How authentic are your backing tracks ? 98246screw loose that is How authentic are your backing tracks ? Lol How authentic are your backing tracks ? Lol How authentic are your backing tracks ? Lol
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I think Mike is on his 3rd hip replacement. How authentic are your backing tracks ? Icon_bounce
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PostSubject: Re: How authentic are your backing tracks ?   How authentic are your backing tracks ? Icon_minitimeSun Oct 11, 2009 6:05 pm

Talking of Backing Tracks......a few months ago, Golden Voice started their new Project with the promise of a new track or tracks being released every week:

http://www.goldenvoice.net/

The first track released was a very authentic sounding "Viva Las Vegas" (albeit with slightly accented backing singers) which I bought.
The week after, they Golden Voice released "Blue Suede Shoes" which I did'nt bother getting as I allready have several versions of this.

And since then.....nothing. They have not released anymore tracks and there is no explanation on the Golden Voice website and indeed the Countdown bar for release dates has come to a standstill.

Anyone know what's going on with them?
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PostSubject: Re: How authentic are your backing tracks ?   How authentic are your backing tracks ? Icon_minitimeSun Oct 11, 2009 6:31 pm

I think the aloha CD that Golden Voice came out with, was pretty good.
Everything after that, forget it...
It is not worth it.
There are many, many backingtracks out, that are as good, if not better for a much better price.
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